Nintendo should just make a powerful console.

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Nintendo should just make a powerful console.

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Post by VG_Addict » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:15 pm

Why do we give Nintendo a pass for not making a powerful console like Sony and Microsoft? Why do we let them be different for the sake of being different? A triangular wheel is different, but that doesn't make it useful.

If Nintendo wants to get third party support, they need to make a powerful console. It's as simple as that.

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Post by Apollo the Just » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:32 pm

Nintendo does a lot of interesting and sometimes groundbreaking things in console design, and makes a lot from its exclusive IPs. I honestly think that's perfectly fine. That said, they also get away with being a kind of **** company in a lot of respects because they have ridiculously good family friendly happy funtimes press; a lot of people think they can do no wrong, so that helps too.

I care a lot more about their intimidating legal presence and attitude toward emulation than I care about their system specs tbh. And, if we're gonna go there, I'd rather they make a game that runs smoothly on their system, than worry about Super Great Graphics TM in general. I'm not a graphics guy. I really couldn't care less, I just want the experience to be smooth and fun.

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Post by Calamity Panfan » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:11 pm

^ yeah there's a notable chug to some switch games, including games you wouldn't necessarily expect it from. I'd rather have a consistent fps than mindblowing graphics.

And I think especially with recent collaborations with Microsoft and soon Sony I think Nintendo is setting themselves more and more to be perfectly fine as the "-and" console, as in, you have a "PC and a Switch" or a "PS4 and a Switch," etc. Though that sucks for people that can't afford a gaming PC and a console or two consoles because they still do have to pick if they want the best versions of the third party games or the A+-quality Nintendo exclusives.

And while Nintendo doesn't have as much AAA third-party support (even if they have more than the past couple generations), the handheld nature of the Switch has allowed them to embrace the indie scene better than any console-maker so far. I feel like when there's a kickstarter for a game now the "Switch version" stretch goal is prioritized over the "XBLA/PSN version" goal. It's THE premier place to play indie games, and I think that goes a long way more and more as the indie scene continues to grow in popularity

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Post by steeze » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:26 pm

Who needs high specs when you have 32 gb of hardcore internal storage, 720p output in handheld mode, and a digital store filled with games 75% of the population has never heard of?

BRO THE SWITCH PLAYS FORTNITE. WHY ISN'T YOUR JAW DROPPING? YOU CAN LITERALLY ATTACH THE CONTROLLERS TO A 6.2 INCH SCREEN. THAT'S BIGGER THAN AN IPHONE.

Wow I am not getting along with Nintendo today.

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Post by VG_Addict » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:29 pm

Who cares about indie games? Switch doesn't have Madden, CoD, RDR2, KH3, and won't have Cyperpunk 2077.

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Post by steeze » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:34 pm

I can almost without hesitation tell you that these folks above us care about Indie games. I occasionally will throw 10 doubloons towards the digital store for a few hours of, "I guess I'll try it."

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Post by Apollo the Just » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:37 pm

Indie games are where the vast majority of innovative game design is coming from now, honestly. My roommate has spent hundreds of dollars more than I have on video games this year, and virtually all of the titles on their Switch are small $5-15 indie titles.

The Switch has very, very successfully carved out a niche.

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Post by CaptHayfever » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:41 pm

I care a lot more about indie games than I do about Exclusive-NFL-License Roster Update 2020 or Brown-on-Gray War Game 583. (RDR & KH are valid complaints, though.)

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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Post by Marilink » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:42 pm

Indie games are like 70% of all recent video games I play, so I for one definitely care about indie games

I also don’t care about Madden, CoD, RDR2, KH3, and won't have Cyperpunk 2077.

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Post by VG_Addict » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:43 pm

I don't see why Nintendo should settle for being an "-and" console. Imagine a console with the usual great Nintendo 1st party titles AND the great 3rd party titles.

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Post by Calamity Panfan » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:43 pm

Millions of people care about indie games. Many of the best games of the past decade plus have been indie games, and they're crossing over more and more into the mainstream, and I think the Switch is playing a big part of that growth.

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Post by I am nobody » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:46 pm

I'll just pop in to nitpick that the fact the Switch is still a stretch goal establishes it isn't *the* premier place to play indie games. It's a lot better than the other consoles, but it still only gets a small fraction of what's available.

VGA, the Switch has already outsold the Xbone despite being four years younger, so it seems pretty clear that power doesn't translate to sales. Why should Nintendo change a strategy that's shipped 53 million units in just under three years?

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Post by CaptHayfever » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:47 pm

Maybe 3rd-party developers should learn how to make games that are still enjoyable at slightly-lower resolutions?

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Post by Marilink » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:47 pm

the switch’s 3rd party library is the best Nintendo has had to offer since like the Super Nintendo

I’m not saying there aren’t valid criticisms to make but I think you’re off the mark on this one bud

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Post by Calamity Panfan » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:49 pm

I should've specified "console" on that one because yeah obviously PC with various storefronts is still THE place.

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Post by steeze » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:50 pm

Marilink wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:42 pm
I also don’t care about Madden, CoD, RDR2, KH3, and won't have Cyperpunk 2077.

I can see not liking some of them but all of them? So much edge

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Post by Apollo the Just » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:54 pm

^ I will second not giving a crap about any of the games on that list

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Post by I am nobody » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:55 pm

Apollo the Just wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:54 pm
^ I will second not giving a crap about any of the games on that list
but what if it was tales of duty

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Post by I am nobody » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:01 pm

Now that I think of it, this thread is pretty much whether third party should go Nintendo.

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Post by Apollo the Just » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:09 pm

I am nobody wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:55 pm
Apollo the Just wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:54 pm
^ I will second not giving a crap about any of the games on that list
but what if it was tales of duty
haven't you heard? i am boycotting the upcoming tales console game because it looks generic big budget jrpg. don't underestimate my insufferable hipster powers

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