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Zelda Mafia Round 2 Night One (IMPORTANT, REPLACEMENT NEEDED!)

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:48 pm

^So, how do we punish Wy? Should we force him to live? :p

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Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:54 pm

HELL YES!!! Make him live and explain himself about his suspicions. It's what I'm doing... NO VOTING FOR HIM FROM THIS FAERIE... not today, at any rate. If circumstances change in the coming days, I'll vote according to things then... :D
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Post by Blake » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:56 pm

Blake wrote:Okay this is interesting actually.

Garo's do kill themselves.

"To die without a corpse, that is the way of the Garo"

"Eastern Peninsula is most definitely the answer"

Garos have knives too.

Wyborn even brought up the Garo.

Wyborn did ask if Daos was the first to vote for him.(Personally I'm not familiar with this role, so can someone help me if I'm veering off track or if I have somewhat of an understanding?)
Do either of you have anything to say about this?

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:56 pm

Oh, teh irony. Here we are, most of us suspicious of him, and now, you're saying we should LET him live... no, FORCE him.

Hm... what if he and you are in cahoots? What if this has been the plan all along. I mean, you say you won't vote him, he gives up his pursuit of you... interesting...

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Post by Microphone_Kirby » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:56 pm

Then what are you going to do, Hottie???

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:56 pm

Oh, and yes, I saw that too, Blake. I find it all very interesting...

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Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:57 pm

ZG... seriously... why are you voting Wy? Why are ANY of you "trusting" him and his plea of too much work, etc. He knew what it'd be like when he signed up. He's played before. And you're going to accept this and just vote him off? Because he asked you to?

I confessed in a lie... you didn't vote for me... so why is Wy's plea a better reason to give him what he wants?

AREN'T YOU SUSPICIOUS OF HIS REAL REASONS????? :D
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Post by Microphone_Kirby » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:58 pm

Because I don't care. Simple.

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:59 pm

Of course I am. But, since I was suspicious of him earlier, I was PLANNING on voting him anyway.

See, here's why I'm torn. This could be a bluff from Wy... he tells us to hang him, and then figures WE WON'T.

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Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:01 am

Call me a silly faerie but I think Wy is laying a trap... and the Townies won't like it. Not everyone in this game falls into Townie, Mafia and Slasher...

From the last game (oh hell I brought it up again... sue me if you can't lynch me) I remember that Crav introduced independents.

Wy just may be an independent. With an agenda that none of us can foresee until we lynch him.

I'm terribly suspicious of his reasons... and I will not play into this sadistic plea. I also like how Silvie ignores 20 pages and just does as Wy asks her... nice way to think for yourself, neh????

What am I going to do... mark Wy down as an independent that could harm the Townies with a lynching and hope like crazy the Mafia gets him... :D
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Post by Microphone_Kirby » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:02 am

I think so too hottie, but again I DON'T CARE!!!

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Post by Blake » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:03 am

HoTD, what of my post? Do you have anything that could help? I have reasons now to suspect Wyborn could be the Garo. The Garo's kill themselves with bombs. It would be a trap.

But I'm not sure how this bomber thing works if there is one.

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Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:03 am

Sorry... typo... singular "independent" last game... it was CL then, remember? :D
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Post by The Missing Link » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:07 am

So I just got home, and on the car ride home, I put some good thought into this topic. I didn't want to act on something huge while I was there because it required a lot of fact checking and possible traps. Here's what I see:

FoS: HotD

Because...
Heroine of the Dragon wrote:And, I'm surprised that none of you are suspicious that Wy has nothing substantial against me STILL and yet totally ignore that when you're all gung-ho regarding me proving my innocence. How about you find soemthing to prove Wy's theory is not the lie that it is. :D
Just how far into Hell are you going to walk with Wyborn, HotD?

I've never had anything concrete against you. I don't keep elaborate dossiers of every player here, most notably because I don't have enough time to do so. (While this game is insanely fun, my life doesn't revolve around this topic.) Even if I did, I don't think HotD would have flagged up as suspicious otherwise. However, I'm not sure if Wy is searching and feeling his way around this one or if he saw something that we all missed, but HotD has acted extremely odd since that time. However, this has all been something that's very non-concrete

However, if Wyborn truly intends to vote himself off, we'll have some hard evidence as far as what side of the game he's on. If he's Mafia, then we can discount everything he's said. But Wyborn is talking like a martyr here, that by voting him off, it will help our game. If this line of thought is true, then HotD could be a Townie at best if Wyborn was just plain wrong.

I'm willing to give this a test, if only to see where this leads. Maybe something solid will result from this. Consider this a pre-emptive FoS for Day Two.

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Blake, you've put a lot of effort into your strategy. Almost too much. Granted, it sounds like you want to help the team as much as you can before being dispatched. However, part of me is very curious about this whole thing. I haven't gone back to look at context about any of this. I really should. The question that's been in my head all day at work (again, I haven't verified this) is whether or not the individual quotes, when ripped out of context, actually spell what you're trying to say OR if the sum is worth considerably less than the parts. In short, when you remove all context, is it saying something that the context does not support?

I frankly don't know. This has just been the idle thought that was distracting me from the infernal frustrations of C++'s preprocessor hell nightmare.

No FoS on you. But I have the nagging thought. FYI.

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IAN I'm chalking up to a very strong mistake. I've made one already; they happen. I'm actually quite surprised at how many votes IAN managed to pull before finally they were retracted. o_o;

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Vote: Wyborn

You get your wish, Wy. I certainly hope the details spell things clearer in the morning.
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Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:07 am

I don't know, Blake... I just know that Wy has been adamant that I should go... even though he admits he has no concrete evidence.... and so I don't know why Wy would wish to influence the game with his own lynching. I haven't begun to understand Wy and his targetting of me. Something in his role means he wants me gone?? I haven't played any other Mafia game except the previous one... I've also not studied the whole "Mafia for Dummies" manual.

Of all people, I know you expect me to be the first to vote for Wy after the way he's targetted me. *laughs*

I love irony... :D
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Post by Wyborn » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:32 am

Not really, Hottie. I expected you to tell everyone to not vote for me.

For obvious reasons.

I think I have nine so far. NintendoGod, I know you're watching...
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Post by Cravdraa » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:33 am

Votes

HotD: Wyborn, Rayman FREAK, Marilink (3)
Shadow Kirby: Ian (1)
Wyborn:Daos, That Guy, Zant Ten, SilverWind, Blake, Daos, ZeldaGirl, Shadow_Kirby, TML, (9)

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Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:36 am

The Missing Link wrote:But Wyborn is talking like a martyr here, that by voting him off, it will help our game. If this line of thought is true, then HotD could be a Townie at best if Wyborn was just plain wrong.

Um Yay? You could have kept your vote on me... after all, by your reasoning, "HotD could be a Townie at best if Wyborn was just plain wrong."

It's perfectly okay to vote off Townies and help the Mafia now, is it, TML?

And he is wrong... so you gotta understand why I keep wondering what Wy's agenda is in trying his hardest to get rid of me... even if he's lynched... he's set me up... or you could tell me I just imagined that, too???

I am so amused that I'm on one hand trying to keep Wy... yet still wondering what he's doing and WHY he's doing it... :D
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Post by Rayman FREAK » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:37 am

My eyes... they burn from the mounds of text...

Okay, I need some sleep soon, and there's no way I can come CLOSE to reading all of this before then. I want to address Blake's post (by the way, kudos for that. This is a lot more interesting now), but I need to at least skim everything first, because apparently a LOT has changed in... 7 hours.

Bear with me for a minute.

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:37 am

Wy, I didn't really see you address Blake's post. Do you care to?

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